Minutes of the
74th Quarterly Meeting
of the
Upper Mississippi River Basin Association
Madison, Wisconsin
The meeting was called to order at 9:10 a.m. by
Vice-Chair Kevin Szcodronski. The
following State Representatives and Federal Liaison Representatives were
present:
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Gary Clark |
Illinois Alternate (IL DNR) |
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Kevin Szcodronski |
Iowa Representative (IA DNR) |
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Jim Hall |
Iowa Representative (IA DOT) |
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Harold Hommes |
Iowa Representative (IDALS) |
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Steve Morse |
Minnesota Alternate (MN DNR) |
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Steve Johnson |
Minnesota Alternate (MN DNR) |
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Dick Lambert |
Minnesota Alternate (MN DOT) |
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Ron Kucera |
Missouri Alternate (MO DNR) |
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Jerry Vineyard |
Missouri Alternate (MO DNR) |
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Jeff Schoeopke |
Wisconsin Representative (Governor’s Office) |
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Terry Moe |
Wisconsin Alternate (WI DNR) |
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Ellen Fisher |
Wisconsin Alternate (WI DOT) |
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Michael Lester |
Wisconsin Alternate (WI DATCP) |
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Dusty Rhodes |
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (MVD) |
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John Blankenship |
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Region 3) |
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Dave Carvey |
U.S. Department of Agriculture (NRCS, Midwest
Office) |
Others in attendance:
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Linda Merriman |
Wisconsin DATCP |
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Brent Halling |
Iowa Dept. of Agriculture and Land Stewardship |
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Mark Dittrich |
Minnesota Dept. of Agriculture |
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Deb Foley |
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (MVS) |
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Tom Pullen |
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (MVD) |
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John Barko |
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (WES) |
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Don Powell |
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (MVP) |
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Gary Loss |
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (MVR) |
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Ken Barr |
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (MVR) |
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Dan Wilcox |
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (MVP) |
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Dave Beck |
Natural Resources Conservation Service (Iowa) |
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Jon Duyvejonck |
Upper Mississippi River Conservation Committee |
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Jim Harrison |
Minnesota-Wisconsin Boundary Area Commission |
(Continued)
Attendance (continued):
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Keith Uhlig |
Minnesota-Wisconsin Boundary Area Commission |
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Dan McGuiness |
National Audubon Society |
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Jeff Stein |
American Rivers |
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Barb Naramore |
Upper Mississippi River Basin Association |
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Holly Stoerker |
Upper Mississippi River Basin Association |
Chair Kevin Szcodronski presented Barb Naramore
with a flower arrangement in recognition of ten years of service with the
UMRBA.
Szcodronski announced that Paul Johnson had
resigned as Director of Iowa DNR. Lyle
Asell will be serving as Interim Director until Governor Vilsack appoints
Johnson’s successor.
Jeff Schoepke moved and Gary Clark seconded a
motion to approve the minutes of the February 16, 2000 quarterly meeting as
drafted. The motion was approved
unanimously.
Jerry Vineyard commented that it will be
important to consider the relationship between the UMRB Conservation Act and
other potentially related legislation, such as
that being developed for the Mississippi River delta area focusing on
economic development.
Gary Clark said that the UMRB Conservation Act
is a step in the right direction in so far as it deals with the important
problem of sediment and nutrients.
However, he noted that it lacks specific federal funding authorization
and requirements concerning state or local match. Existing land treatment programs in Illinois have been successful
because there are both federal and state funding mechanisms in place.
Terry Moe noted that EPA and state water quality
programs are conspicuously absent from the bill. He commented that the basin approach embodied in the bill will
benefit water quality conditions in local watersheds where the land treatment
is actually done. He also noted that
the programs targeted for increases in the bill have existing delivery systems that
rely heavily on states and county soil and water conservation districts. Therefore, there needs to be greater
coordination with existing state and local programs. Moe also questioned whether the new bureaucracies established by
the bill are really needed.
Jim Harrison reported that the
Minnesota-Wisconsin Boundary Area Commission is working with its two sponsor
states to identify potential needs and opportunities related to the
legislation. The Commission’s Mississippi
River Regional Committee is scheduled to discuss the bill at its May 25 meeting.
Dan McGuiness said that Audubon supports the
bill and acknowledged that there may be details that need to be worked out.
Jeff Stein said that American Rivers has been
working closely with Congressman Kind on the legislation. He offered the following observations and
opinions on the comments made by UMRBA representatives:
Holly Stoerker raised the following issues:
Gary Clark noted that the questions and issues
raised by Stoerker are also of concern to Illinois. In addition, Illinois believes that cost-sharing of the
monitoring may be a problem. Illinois
also questions the utility of modeling on the basin scale.
Jeff Stein responded to the issues that Stoerker
raised by noting that the Findings section of the bill makes reference to the
need for linkage between the monitoring, modeling, and implementation actions,
even though there is no explicit directive linking them. With regard to the CPA designation, Stein
noted that NRCS could better explain the practical implications of the
designation, but that increasing the profile of the basin should help to target
resources to it. He also explained that
the purpose of the monitoring is targeting of implementation efforts.
Stein urged the UMRBA to support the bill,
noting that American Rivers had collected endorsements from 500 river groups
for the types of programs embodied in H.R. 4013. Members of Congress are also very supportive. H.R. 4013 currently has 16 cosponsors.
Dave Carvey emphasized that strong state and
local involvement is the key to success.
He noted that such local involvement is lacking in H.R. 4013, but
that the concept of the legislation is worthy of support. He expressed reservations about the
composition of the Advisory Council, but noted that NRCS had not yet issued an
official position on the bill.
Stoerker explained that the House Resources
Committee has expressed interest in having a hearing on H.R. 4013 prior to the
August Congressional recess. Dave
Carvey noted that the hearing may be as early as late June or early July. Jeff Stein urged the UMRBA to request a
hearing. Ron Kucera commented that an
early hearing may not be in the best interest of the legislation if the states
and other key interests have not yet indicated their support. Stoerker noted that the UMRBA may not wish
to push for a hearing before its position on the bill is clearly defined.
Harold Hommes suggested that UMRBA not take a position on H.R. 4013 until the states have had an opportunity to further review the proposal and consult with county conservation commissions. He noted that the authors of the legislation had not consulted with the states in development of the bill. Stoerker explained that there was no expectation that UMRBA would take any official action at this meeting. Rather, she suggested that draft comments on H.R. 4013 be prepared and reviewed subsequent to the discussion at this meeting.
Ron Kucera said that Missouri is not yet ready to support the bill. While they do not oppose it, more internal review and thoughtful consideration is needed. He cautioned against rushing to support the bill, given that it has complex policy issues associated with it. He requested input from NRCS and EPA.
Kevin Szcodronski asked UMRBA staff to prepare a
summary of the comments and perspectives offered at this meeting. That summary will be circulated to UMRBA
members who will then submit any additional comments they may have to UMRBA
staff by June 7. Staff will prepare
draft UMRBA comments based on that input and circulate the draft for review by
June 21.
Copies of three recently introduced bills were
distributed, together with summaries of the bills that UMRBA had prepared. Holly Stoerker briefly explained each bill:
·
The Administration’s proposed Water Resources
Development Act of 2000 was introduced in the Senate on April 13 (S. 2437) and
in the House on May 9 (H.R. 4411).
Of particular potential interest to the UMRBA are Section 4 that
authorizes the Corps to do comprehensive river basin assessments, Section 14
that increases the nonfederal share of structural flood control projects to
50%, and Section 17 that requires local interests to enforce floodplain
management plans as a prerequisite for construction of a Corps flood control
project.
·
S. 2417, the” Water Pollution Program
Enhancement Act,” would increase Section 319 and 106 funding, mandate a
National Academy of Sciences (NAS) study of TMDLs, and bar EPA from finalizing
its TMDL rules until the NAS study is complete.
·
The Senate version of the “Fishable Waters Act,”
(S.2441/H.R.4278) was introduced April 13 by Senator Bond of Missouri. It would establish a Fisheries Habitat Account
to provide funding, through USDA, for state fisheries protection and watershed
planning through voluntary local watershed councils. Funding from the account could be used for a variety of purposes,
including the nonfederal cost share for programs like the EMP. The bill would also authorize the Department
of the Interior to undertake instream flow projects and to plan for fisheries
habitat protection through floodplain management on major waterways.
Stoerker requested
that UMRBA members contact UMRBA staff by June 7 if they are interested in
having UMRBA develop comments on any of these bills.
Bruce Baker of Wisconsin DNR described the work
of the UMRBA Water Quality Task Force.
He characterized the group as relatively ad-hoc, but looking for some
increased formality given the valuable role the group plays in bringing state
water quality administrators together to discuss common issues. At the most recent meeting of the Task Force
on May 12, the primary topic of discussion was TMDL development on the Upper
Mississippi River. Baker explained that
EPA is pulling together information from state 305(b) reports and other data
sources to prepare a summary water quality assessment report for the Upper
Mississippi River. The next step will
likely be for EPA to make recommendations regarding TMDLs. Baker said that the states are concerned
that EPA may move ahead without state input.
Therefore, the Water Quality Task Force has suggested that a framework
for TMDL development be drafted to outline what process EPA and the states will
use to jointly develop TMDLs for the river.
Baker also described the discussions of the
Water Quality Task Force with regard to H.R. 4013, the Upper Mississippi River
Basin Conservation Act. He expressed concern
that the bill is not properly focused on water quality issues including Gulf
Hypoxia. H.R. 4013 may be a vehicle for
providing the resources necessary to implement the Action Plan being developed
by the Hypoxia Task Force.
Baker said that the UMRBA Water Quality Task
Force members recognize the need to meet more frequently and sustain their
coordination activities between meetings.
To do so will require the commitment of a full-time coordinator
position, potentially on the UMRBA staff.
Baker said the Water Quality Task Force discussed the possibility of
sharing in the cost of such a position on a one-year trial basis with 604(b)
funding from the states. Baker
emphasized that no single state can take on this sort of effort alone.
Holly Stoerker indicated that, before a scope of
work or grant application can be prepared, the states need to review and
discuss the draft “Coordination Framework” document that Tim Henry of EPA
Region 5 is drafting. It may be
available for review at the August UMRBA meeting.
Kevin Szcodronski asked if consistency in state
water quality standards is an issue being discussed by the Water Quality Task
Force. Baker explained that the
question of consistency in standards is actually much more complex than it may
appear. Instead, the Task Force is more
likely to focus on TMDLs, hypoxia and nutrient issues, water quality
monitoring, and general information sharing.
Szcodronski
commented that the water quality coordinator position seemed to be worth
pursuing. He questioned whether UMRBA
cost-sharing would be required if there was a grant from EPA. Baker speculated that the time which state
Task Force members devote may count toward whatever cost share is required.
Terry Moe expressed support for Baker’s
recommendation that UMRBA consider creating a water quality coordinator
position, noting that the issues being discussed by the Water Quality Task
Force are very complex.
John Blankenship explained that the Fish and Wildlife
Service’s Biological Opinion on Operation and Maintenance (O&M) of the Nine
Foot Channel was signed and transmitted to the Corps of Engineers on May
15. Although the Corps has not yet
received it, public release of the 300 page document is now the responsibility
of the Corps of Engineers. Blankenship
characterized the consultation process over the past few months as arduous, but
productive. He indicated that there is
nothing in the Opinion that would preclude navigation or navigation improvements.
Tom Pullen indicated that the Corps had not yet
reviewed the final Opinion, but that, if it is close to the draft version,
there will likely be agreement on many of the steps that need to be taken to
address species impacts. There may be
some disagreement on the pallid sturgeon and least tern recommendations.
In response to a question about when the Corps
will release the Opinion and the Corps’ response, Dusty Rhodes said that there
is no specific date, but that it would likely be within 30 days.
John Blankenship clarified that the Service’s
Opinion is final, but that the Corps, as Action Agency, has discretion over
release of the document and must prepare a formal reply.
Ron Kucera expressed concern that the Fish and
Wildlife Service had not yet identified critical habitat for the pallid
sturgeon or any of the other species of concern. He said that the states are being drawn into ESA issues, but do
not have meaningful involvement in the consultation process or access to the
consultation documents. Steve Johnson
added that the states are frustrated because the process for developing the
Biological Opinion is not transparent.
For example, the states have been asked to comment on the Higgins eye
relocation plan by May 17, but still have not been able to review the actual
Biological Opinion. While states are
being asked to participate in implementation plans for the “prudent
alternatives,” the states have not been involved in the ESA process to date.
Tom Pullen explained that the Corps plans to consult
with a variety of stakeholders to develop the necessary habitat protection
plans. However, there is no specific
provision for public involvement in preparation of the Corps’ response to the
Biological Opinion. Dusty Rhodes
explained that public involvement takes place in the Corps planning process,
not in the ESA consultation process.
In response to a question, Tom Pullen clarified
that the ESA consultation on O&M of the navigation channel is separate from
the EIS on the 9-foot channel project.
The current ESA consultation on O&M was needed to establish a
baseline for the ESA consultation process that will follow on any navigation
improvements resulting from the navigation study.
Mark Beorkrem said that the environmental
community has requested an EIS on the 9-foot channel project. Dusty Rhodes stated that the Corps’ current
position is that the existing EIS for
the 9-foot channel is sufficient.
Kevin Szcodronski turned responsibility for
chairing the meeting over to Gary Clark for the discussion of the UMRCC Report,
A Strategy for Operation and Maintenance of the UMRS Ecosystem.
Szcodronski explained that the UMRCC had
presented its report for discussion at
the UMRBA’s last meeting in February.
The report describes nine recommended objectives for operation and
maintenance of the Upper Mississippi River ecosystem, including:
For two of those objectives (water quality and
erosion/sediment control) the UMRCC has recommended a leadership role for the
UMRBA. The UMRCC has also asked that
UMRBA serve as a forum for the broad consideration of the recommendations in
the report. Szcodronski emphasized that
taking on such a role would not imply that UMRBA necessarily endorses the
report or the nine recommended objectives.
Szcodronski proposed that UMRBA include one or
two of the UMRCC’s nine recommended objectives on the agenda for each UMRBA
meeting during the next year. An expert
speaker would be invited to present an overview of the issue and a briefing
paper would be prepared for further background. He recommended 1-1/2 hours for each topic. The purpose would be to discuss the issue
and potential ways to implement the objective within existing authorities. Szcodronski also noted that UMRCC members
intend to use the nine objectives to guide their review of new projects and
programs.
Jim Harrison reported that the
Minnesota-Wisconsin Boundary Area Commission endorsed the UMRCC report at its
February 10 meeting. He added that the
Commission believes objectives #2, 4, and 6 are particularly important.
Jerry Vineyard questioned how the recreational
benefits attributed to objectives #5 and 6 would enhance the ecosystem. Szcodronski explained that channel
connectivity does not necessarily mean boat access. He acknowledged that human access should be carefully considered
in the context of ecosystem needs. Jon
Duyvejonck noted that recreation is increasing, but is not specifically managed
by any agency.
Dusty Rhodes noted that at least five of the
nine objectives identify a major role for the Corps of Engineers. He cautioned that a funding source would
need to be identified and that O&M funding is extremely tight. Kevin Szcodronski explained that UMRCC
attempted to identify the most likely agency to take the lead on each of the
objectives. As part of the discussion
that takes place at future UMRBA meetings, Szcodronski would expect a
representative of the recommended lead agency to provide feedback on that
agency’s willingness and ability to assume a lead role.
With regard to Szcodronski’s specific
recommendation that UMRBA consider one or two of the UMRCC’s recommended
objectives at each meeting, Terry Moe questioned whether there would be
sufficient time to adequately address more than one issue at each meeting. It was agreed that the UMRBA would schedule
at least one objective per meeting, with flexibility to address more, depending
on the complexity of the issue and the available time on the agenda. Ron Kucera suggested that objective #3
(restoration of the natural floodplain) be the first issue to be addressed at
the next UMRBA meeting. He noted that
on the lower river, engineering techniques are used for environmental benefits
and there are important considerations related to land acquisition when there
is so little floodplain land in the public domain. Dick Lambert questioned whether the channel meanders referred to
in Objective #3 are main channel or side channel meanders. Kucera
suggested that such questions be addressed when UMRCC presents
background on the issue at the next meeting.
Szcodronski said that UMRCC Coordinator Jon
Duyvejonck would work with UMRBA staff to recruit an expert speaker and prepare
a briefing paper for the next UMRBA meeting.
Szcodronski indicated that at least one UMRCC Executive Board member
would attend the UMRBA meeting to participate in the discussion of the
objective. Holly Stoerker emphasized
that UMRBA staff would need to rely on UMRCC for development of the briefing
paper.
Holly Stoerker distributed copies of the
proposed UMRBA budget for FY 2001. She
explained that the proposal would yield $10,000 in net income at year end. She also noted that the total FY 2001
payroll is essentially the same as FY 2000, although permanent staff
expenditures will increase slightly and project staff expenditures will decrease. The FY 2001 equipment budget is less than FY
2000, because last year included the purchase of a new phone system. The FY 2001 state participation budget
is based on the assumption that Iowa and Wisconsin will not be eligible for
travel reimbursement because they failed to pay the full dues assessment in FY
2000.
In response to a question from Terry Moe,
Stoerker explained that the net income in FY 2001 is somewhat of an anomaly and
does not eliminate the long-term need for full state funding.
In response to a question from Kevin Szcodronski,
Stoerker explained that if UMRBA secures a grant to support a new water quality
coordinator position, the budget would need to be revised. However, Stoerker indicated that such an
adjustment would not likely change the net significantly.
Gary Clark moved and Steve Morse seconded a
motion to approve the FY 2001 UMRBA budget as proposed by staff. The motion passed unanimously.
Holly Stoerker announced that the next two UMRBA
quarterly meetings (including the GLC and EMP-CC meetings) are scheduled
for August 8-10 in Rock Island and
November 14-16 in St. Louis. It
was agreed that the winter meetings would be scheduled for February 27-March 1,
2001 in the Twin Cities.
Dan McGuiness announced that the Audubon Ark
will be traveling upstream from Cairo to Davenport on October 1-25.
John Blankenship announced that the Fish and
Wildlife regional office will be reorganizing effective July 2, 2000. It is not yet clear how the EMP and other
Mississippi River issues and programs will be handled.
With no further business, the meeting was
adjourned at 12:15 p.m.